on Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:02 pm#19767
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:13 pm#19769
If the home team is down, momentum can shift simply by having the crowd get behind them.
Same with marquis players. If the marquis player is out, or having an off game, it can swing the momentum against them.
Streaks....if someone goes on a scoring rampage, it can discourage the other team.
Momentum is a psychological / emotional thing. It leads to physical momentum.
Has he ever played a team sport?
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:20 pm#19771
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:42 pm#19772
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on Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:52 pm#19774
He posted a link on my facebook page by a bunch of engineers from MIT who recorded data from 2000-2011 from all the plays in football and apparently their results contradict there being "momentum". I'd post the link but I'm at work on my phone.
He is one of those baseball sabremetrics / wins above replacement / xfib stat guys.
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:24 pm#19776
Adrenalin rush and focus improves. Thats where the 'hit parade' comes in when back to back to back homeruns followed by a double and stolen base and causing pitcher to balk.... you mess with the norm.
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:44 pm#19777
Since he has never played organized team sports, he is likely leaning on rather inconclusive findings of those academics who study and write ont he topics of sports psychology.
Just like the "intuition", one can't speak intellectually about it until you get that gut feeling about it. Gut feelings can't be studied and reported on with any degree of reliability, because there isn't a measure for it, nor is it reliable enough to "go by" as a measurable emotion.
Momentum is psychological and emotional. There is positive and negative momentum....and until he's been in a situation and felt both sides of it, he's got no clue what he's talking about.
Not everything can be quantified and put into a tidy chart. This is one of those things.
Tell him to play a season of any competitive sport and then try to speak about it. Right now, he's like a man trying to say he understands PMS. No, no and no. He doesn't
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:49 pm#19778
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:05 pm#19779
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on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:27 pm#19780
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:40 pm#19781
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:23 pm#19784
Even after he had knee surgery, he came back in championship form.
After he was publicly humiliated by his infidelity, his momentum was halted. He became human. Even his demeanor off the grass seemed subordinate and defeated. He rode years of positive momentum into many victories and many championships.
After the philandering, his golf game was still the same, swing still the same, knowledge of the game the same, knowledge of the courses, the same.....but he had his positive, decade long, momentum halted. From there, the competition began building their own momentum out of his destruction.
Get your buddy into a competitive sport season. He'll shut right up and stop pointing to studies to disprove the one thing that every athlete can speak experientially about.
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:37 pm#19787
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:32 pm#19789
on Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:32 pm#19790
The inherent flaw, and I'm actually shocked that not 1, not 2, but THREE MIT nerds missed this.... is equating sports momentum with quantifiable athletic results.....actually, equating even physical momentum with sports momentum is actually a semantic absurdity. Not thier fault, but, certainly demonstrates how myopic one can become when trying to disprove something. They didn't even get over the philosophical hurdle, which would have shut this down before they wasted their time disproving it.
Nevertheless, if nothing else, it's a mis-naming of something for a lack of better phrasology.
Scientifically, momentum is a combination of velocity and mass....it's quantifiable.
Momentum in sports, is abstract. It's a psychological and emotional state....not measurable and not quantifiable...and certainly not something that results can be predicated by. One can't assume that (what we'll continue mis-naming) "momentum" is achieved by this or that sports event, and that having this "momentum" will provide positive returns. Locigally, it just falls apart on so many levels.
I mean, you can measure and understand momentum in physics. In measuring it and quantifying it, you can predict it. This can't happen in sports....which is why the MIT nerds are wrong, your friend is wrong, and the term "momentum" is just a poorly chosen word for a psychological state.
Again, tell you friend, and email the MIT geeks, that they need to get off the computer.
on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:44 am#19816
One team loses a lot= The whole team keeps losing again and again because they are all sad
So yeah, there is momentum. I needed to change my pants after playing aganist C4B on Dome. Just the thought of everyone being skilled and rushing got me worried because I am not used to it. Nevermind playing real sports with money, fame and maybe your own health being on the line.
Your friend is not that smart :p
EDIY: Momentum was very important in wars, too. A winning army, with every win, kept getting even more victories. The downfall of the victorious starts when the normal solider think that he is a god among men. That is the moment when they start losing. See first line of my post.
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